[lttng-dev] User-space RCU: call rcu_barrier() before dissociating helper thread?
mathieu.desnoyers at efficios.com
Wed May 5 10:46:58 EDT 2021
----- On May 5, 2021, at 3:54 AM, Martin Wilck mwilck at suse.com wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-04-30 at 14:41 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Apr 29, 2021, at 9:49 AM, lttng-dev
>> lttng-dev at lists.lttng.org wrote:
>> > In multipath-tools, we are using a custom RCU helper thread, which
>> > is cleaned
>> > out
>> > on exit:
>> > https://github.com/opensvc/multipath-tools/blob/23a01fa679481ff1144139222fbd2c4c863b78f8/multipathd/main.c#L3058
>> > I put a call to rcu_barrier() there in order to make sure all
>> > callbacks had
>> > finished
>> > before detaching the helper thread.
>> > Now we got a report that rcu_barrier() isn't available before user-
>> > space RCU 0.8
>> > (https://github.com/opensvc/multipath-tools/issues/5) (and RHEL7 /
>> > Centos7
>> > still has 0.7.16).
>> > Question: was it over-cautious or otherwise wrong to call
>> > rcu_barrier() before
>> > set_thread_call_rcu_data(NULL)? Can we maybe just skip this call?
>> > If no, what
>> > would be the recommended way for liburcu < 0.8 to dissociate a
>> > helper thread?
>> > (Note: I'm not currently subscribed to lttng-dev).
>> First of all, there is a significant reason why liburcu does not free
>> the "default"
>> call_rcu worker thread data structures at process exit. This is
>> caused by the fact that
>> a call_rcu callback may very well invoke call_rcu() to re-enqueue
>> more work.
>> AFAIU this is somewhat similar to what happens to the Linux kernel
>> RCU implementation
>> when the machine needs to be shutdown or rebooted: there may indeed
>> never be any point
>> in time where it is safe to free the call_rcu worker thread data
>> structures without leaks,
>> due to the fact that a call_rcu callback may re-enqueue further work
>> So my understanding is that you implement your own call rcu worker
>> thread because the
>> one provided by liburcu leaks data structure on process exit, and you
>> expect that
>> call rcu_barrier once will suffice to ensure quiescence of the call
>> rcu worker thread
>> data structures. Unfortunately, this does not cover the scenario
>> where a call_rcu
>> callback re-enqueues additional work.
> I understand. In multipath-tools, we only have one callback, which
> doesn't re-enqueue any work. Our callback really just calls free() on a
> data structure. And it's unlikely that we'll get more RCU callbacks any
> time soon.
> So, to clarify my question: Does it make sense to call rcu_barrier()
> before set_thread_call_rcu_data(NULL) in this case?
Yes, it would ensure that all pending callbacks are executed prior to
removing the worker thread. And considering that you don't have chained
callbacks, it makes sense to invoke rcu_barrier() only once.
> If yes, is there an
> alternative for safely detaching the custom RCU thread if rcu_barrier()
> is unavailable?
I suspect you could re-implement something similar to rcu_barrier() within
your application through call_rcu and a rendez-vous synchronization. It
all depends on how much complexity you want to add to your application
for the sake of not leaking data structures when using old versions of
>> So without knowing more details on the reasons why you wish to clean
>> up memory at
>> process exit, and why it would be valid to do so in your particular
>> use-case, it's
>> rather difficult for me to elaborate a complete answer.
> multipathd is a long-running process, so being wary of memory leaks is
> important. valgrind tests pop up an ugly warning about liburcu - it's
> obviously not a big issue, as it occurs only on exit, but it makes a
> negative impression on users running memory leak tests. It's possible
> to work around that by using valgrind "suppressions", but so far my
> policy was to use these only as last resort measure, in case we
> couldn't find any way to work around it in our code. That's why I came
> up with the "custom RCU thread" approach.
> Anyway, from what you're saying, it might be be better to simply accept
> the fact that this pseudo-memory-leak exists than trying to fix it in
> an unsafe way with older liburcu versions.
If we push this line of thinking to the extreme, we should look into what
improvement should be to to liburcu upstream so we fix this situation in
the future, and then you can decide how you want to handle legacy liburcu
on your side.
>> I can see that maybe we could change liburcu to make it so that we
>> free all
>> call_rcu data structures _if_ they happen to be empty of callbacks at
>> process exit,
>> after invoking one rcu_barrier. That should take care of not leaking
>> data structures
>> in the common case where call_rcu does not enqueue further callbacks.
>> Thoughts ?
> That would be nice, but it wouldn't help me in the specific case, where
> I have to deal with an old version of liburcu.
> Perhaps you could also consider an API extension by which an
> application could tell liburcu that it's exiting, and no further
> callbacks should be scheduled?
But then how is the application supposed to deal with this ? For instance,
the call_rcu callback could be used to implement a condition variable rendez-vous
point which blocks other parts of the application until it is executed.
I have a few ideas on how to deal with this in liburcu upstream:
1) We could implement library destructor functions which cleanup the call rcu
worker threads (and their data structures) _only if_ they are quiescent and
their associated callback list is empty.
2.1) We could document that the application needs to invoke rcu_barrier() before
it exits if it wishes to ensure that all call_rcu callbacks are executed before
it exits. We should document that if the application chains call_rcu callbacks,
it needs to invoke rcu_barrier() as many times as there are consecutive chaining.
And of course, that a never-ending chaining of call_rcu callbacks will necessarily
lead to memory leaks at application exit.
2.2) Alternatively, we could have the rcu_barrier invoked from within liburcu's destructor.
The number of times rcu_barrier would be invoked could be configured through a new API.
The default could be that rcu_barrier is invoked once. An application could choose to
override this so rcu_barrier is never called at application exit if it cares more about
exiting quickly than leaking memory.
I would slightly favor approaches (1) + (2.1), because it leaves all flexibility to the
application: if call_rcu is invoked from within a library, then that library is free to
choose how many times it needs to invoke rcu_barrier in its own library destructor (e.g.
In order to make sure the "common use-case" does not leak memory though, we could make sure
liburcu does one rcu_barrier and conditionally cleanup the worker thread + data structures if
the callback list is empty after the barrier.
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